I generally avoid political discussions and debates on this blog. I have strong opinions about the economy, bailouts, executive bonuses, congressional hypocrisy, taxation, government intrusion, partisanship, and more. (I know, you are shocked that I have strong opinions!). And I am more than happy to discuss these in person, but, as I just said, I generally avoid doing so here.
But, an anonymous paid ad ran in yesterday's Wall Street Journal (page A4), and the author has managed to clearly and effectively articulate what so many find frustrating. The ad text has really resonated with me, so much so that I have been feeling compelled to share copies of it far and wide. And so, possibly against my better judgment, I am providing a link to the ad text here. Regardless of your political orientation, this one is well worth the read.
Welcome to a welfare state because the alternative pure capitalist is something America cannot handle.
We may still disagree with each other on ideas, but let the debate be open.
And really, WHO wrote this ad, and how condescending do they have to be? "shamelessly pandering to an uninformed electorate ". Seriously, F***K you. You know what, we're coming off an election with the highest levels of engagement in decades, and WE aren't the ones that messed up this economy. Don't call me uninformed. Misinformation was what got us to this point in the first place.
Quote: "The bonuses in question were voted by Congress and signed into law by the sitting President." MORE misinformation. The House passed its bill, the Senate has yet to vote on a bill, and they are different, so it will need to go to conference. THE PRESIDENT HAS NOT SIGNED THIS BILL (a bill he has asked congress not to pass, by the way). How is THAT for uninformed?
And who is this aimed at? If you want to persuade the masses, don't advertise in the WSJ, have balls and put an advert in the Biloxi Sun Herald, or the Chicago Times. This is just like Rick Santelli throwing a fit on the trading floor, doing an impromptu poll of traders and THEN having the gonads to declare "this is a pretty good cross section of America right here". Really? I mean, Really? Millionaire bondsman are a pretty good cross section on America? Well, excuse me, I guess I must be an elitist, because I live in a different America to that one.
This advert was anonymous for a reason. It's an embarrassment. It's a last ditch effort to validate incompetence and failure.
David
BTW: The bill that allowed the spending was the join congress/senate bill that was passed. The exception was in there BECAUSE THE WHITE HOUSE ASKED FOR IT.
"WE aren't the ones that messed up this economy";
BS, the Dems have as much to answer for as the sorry Republicans in the past and EVERYTHING to answer for in the current. In fact it's DEMOCRATS that pushed banks to make loans to people who should get one to begin with; starting with the Clinton administration. It's the mortgage crisis that is making this as bad as it is! Stop getting all your news from one source you come off as nothing but an angry bitter ill informed douche!
Start with a "Tea Party" April 15th.
A decent response to this WSJ ad can be found at: http://desmoines.injuryboard.com/toxic-substances/...
Good read and easily the truth
April Fools? I hope.
Notice that it is nothing but ad-hominem attacks, and a completely absurd allegation.
Not one factual support is given nor is there a hint that "Robert" even read the article in question. He certainly did not understand it.
I applaud you, again, Ben; for taking a stand. It is unfortunate that up to one half of this country will now fight you, loudly and hatefully, to keep all of us in chains.
I am an Independent and I voted for Obama. I still support him. In the past I've supported Bill Clinton, John Kerry and the first George Bush (the smart one who bravely served our country in numerous capacities - not Dick Cheney's puppet president).
I invite any of you that truly believe that our economy crumbled within the last 2 years or 60 days or whatever FOX News has told you this week to go have a look at the data right here http://www.bls.gov/ (at the US Bureau of Labor Statistics). You call yourselves programmers - why not gather some statistical evidence to back up your bullsh!t - if you can. Make sure you take a good long look at the prosperity period we had when Bill Clinton was in office and make sure you compare and contrast how the economy was doing when he handed over the reigns to spongebob genius pants as opposed to how it was when W handed it over to Obama.
Many of you would also benefit from learning to add, subtract, multiply and divide so that you could understand this...
GDP = C + I + G + (X ? M)
and perhaps maybe even spot when something is too good to be true.
Also don't forget about how the outgoing GOP was allowed to reinvent the economic indicators, benchmarks and standards for measuring budgetary success. Try this on for size - "Yeah uh we were attacked by a Afghan Terrorists but we would now like to go after a different, but nearby enemy nation state. Oh and you're not patriotic if you disagree with us and we won't count however many billion we spend per month as part of our budget benchmarks." Wow, that's pretty convenient. You must have hired all of your accountants from folks leftover from Enron and MCI.
The GOP won with W twice by appealing to the moral views of many. The irony is that the majority of their voting demographic was poor and rural - so what I'm trying to articulate is that the GOP got a lot of people to vote for them who had nothing to gain financially by voting for them. So now that the abortion and religious stuff isn't enough to win the GOP's new strategy will be "Quick, blame it on the new guys so we can get back in there!". Who knows - guns, defense and character smearing carried them through a pretty choppy election against Kerry and they may be able to go back to that tactic. I would really like to see if any of the GOP have the guts to stand up and say "I don't believe in the snake and the apple and I'm willing to admit that dinosaurs existed and that we evolved over time - I'm also willing to admit that we lost our way as a party during the 2000's decade and we were supposed to be good with money and non-intrusive, what we did was run up a massive deficit and enact the patriot act". Probably won't happen, but I'll keep hope alive and if the right GOP guy comes along I might even vote for him.
@Ben - I guess since you live here full time you've got the right to play the game with the rest of us (for those of you who don't know he's a US citizen by choice not birth). You probably have a unique perspective from growing up in Europe. I've got to believe that the rest of the world, including the UK, France and even Canada must be laughing at us by now.
My name is Darren Labrum. I have no idea what or how even half of your self-righteously delivered rant has to do with most or any of the specific issues that the WSJ ad is calling attention to.
I would like to reiterate my appreciating to Ben for posting the ad. I hadn't seen this previously.
Thank you Ben for the post and all the rest of the interesting blog posts that make your blog one of my favorites.
Best,
Darren
Sorry you didn't care for my point of view but hey, that's why it's called "opinion". But thanks for yours too!
Cheers!
For starters, I made no comment whatsoever about the past 8 years, so some of you are really making assumptions about where I stand. And not that I owe anyone clarification, but you may be interested to know that I am most definitely not a George Bush fan-boy, but at the same time I also do not find it necessary to paint him as evil and the source of all woes. Actually, for me, the past 8 years are a mixed bag. For example, Roberts was an excellent nomination to the Supreme Court, just as the Harriet Miers nomination was the height of idiocy. The John Bolton appointment to the U.N., though doomed from the start, was truly inspired. The war in Afghanistan was justified, and was sacrificed for a war in Iraq that I never did support. Bush's position on stem cell research was neither here nor there, whereas I fully approved of his Middle East policies. I fault George Bush on his remarkable inability to never say no to spending, and for in doing so trampling all over traditional GOP positions on the size of budgets and government, and for thereby making current Republican calls for fiscal restraint nothing short of laughable. But I did support the Bush tax cuts, and want to see further cuts, including slashing the corporate tax rate, and the elimination of the death tax and any other forms of double taxation. And sure, we could argue about each and every one of these, and more, but the bottom line is that I think that I do indeed apply critical thinking to my politics, thank you very much.
Similarly, there were things that Bill Clinton did that I approve of, and things that I most definitely do not (and I most definitely did not approve of the Ken Starr witch-hunt and the subsequent Clinton impeachment). Same for Bush 41, he gets mixed reviews. And I do the same with every President and political figure. The notable exception being Jimmy Carter, the poster boy for national buyer's remorse, and the one president who perhaps is indeed as moronic as he usually sounds. But, Carter aside, I am an equal opportunity basher. I don't blame Barack Obama for the fact that the economy has gotten worse while he was in office any more than I blame George Bush for the same. The sub-prime mortgage fiasco that was the straw that broke the camel's back? The administrations of both Bush and Clinton promoted the ownership society and helped create the climate and environment that encouraged people to buy more than they could afford. And, as unpopular as this position is, I place most of the blame for that one not on congress, and not on politics, and not on mortgage brokers, and not on banks. I place most of the blame on individual greed. But, I'm off on a tangent, so ...
AIG using bailout money to pay bonuses was a demonstration of stupidity, agreed. But, was it illegal? No. In fact, had AIG not paid those bonuses they could probably have been sued by the employees for breach of contract. But does government have the right to tell companies how much to pay and to whom? Most definitely not, except when the government is giving those companies money, in which case the government is a partial owner, a shareholder, and then they can indeed do so, and should. But they did not. In fact, we now know that congress explicitly allowed the bonuses to be paid. And then, after the fact, when the public was rightfully outraged, our politicians stand up with that solemn look and blast what they explicitly allowed.
Don't get me wrong. I do think that many execs are overpaid. But it is not up to Congress to regulate that, it is up to us. Here's an idea. What if the population did not like how much the head of their bank was being paid, and they all got up and moved their accounts to another bank. Can you imagine what would have happened if 50% of customers would pick up and leave? How fast would the company have reacted to make compensations changes? It's doable. But no, many would rather whine than do.
Did you ever see the musical Evita? The narrator, Che, is a wonderfully cynical character. And watching the mourners at Evita's funeral he sings: "Oh what a circus, oh what a show, Argentina has gone to town, Over the death of an actress called Eva Peron, We've all gone crazy, Mourning all day and mourning all night, Falling over ourselves to get all of the misery right". While I was listening to the outraged senators and congressman and state attorney general's go on and on about AIG executives, I actually found myself singing Che's lyrics! Really! This was not tapping in to public outrage. This was not about right or wrong. This was purely about showmanship. Yes, there is always a desire to find a scapegoat, to vilify the evildoer, and what the heck, AIG execs fit the bill, even though they did exactly what Congress allowed.
And that's what I liked about this ad. While we can bicker about exact wording, the sentiment is correct, and it calls out congress for their hypocritical behavior and attitudes. And I agree with that, entirely. While listening to the AIG hearings I found myself getting really upset and angry, not at AIG, but at the politicians. The same politicians who rebuked the auto execs for flying to Washington on private jets when about to ask for public funds. The same politicians who fly to Washington often on private jets, and who are all paid with public funds. The same politicians who criticize executives who get paid regardless of what they accomplish, which incidentally is exactly the way politicians get paid.
And yes, Andy's comment is correct. I am a U.S. citizen by choice, and I consider myself a very informed citizen. (Heck, during the 2008 campaign I listened to every stump speech and every ad by every candidate in every region of the country, much to my family's dismay). And my politics are indeed very influenced by growing up in a country that sometimes epitomizes big government and a nanny state mentality, by a country that has a public health system that is far from perfect (I know, I had to use it) and where those that can afford to do so buy private insurance so as not to have to use it, and where taxation makes it much harder to get ahead, and where welfare dependence is unfortunately encouraged. And no, I am not bashing the U.K. as much as I am pointing out that the politics and policies of every country are imperfect, and there seem to be many Americans who have developed a grass-is-always-greener mentality that scares me. But hey, what do I know, after all, I grew up in the Margret Thatcher era, and was really proud of how she dealt with Arthur Scargill and the coalminers union (as was Ronald Reagan, who seemed to borrow her politics when dealing with the air traffic controllers).
Bottom line, I do like that WSJ ad. No, it does not reflect all of my political views (which admittedly are a mixed bag, I don't fall in line with the right or the left, and in the three Presidential elections I voted in I did not vote strictly along party lines), but it most definitely sums up how I feel about congress relative to AIG.
Whew! That was fun! :-)
Ben, I hope I get a chance to meet you sometime in the future.
Until then, keep up the good work.
Darren